Posts by The Fall Guy

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shunning of those who have "left da troof"

by resolute Bandicoot in

hi friends, .

can somebody please help me locate a recent thread that dealt with shunning of family members and the policy double standard, e.g.

jw.borg explanation that the family relationship is unchanged and the recent daily text that suggested that we should shun them.. tried searching but could not find it.. thanks rb.

The Fall Guy

@ At 1 hour 13 mins 26 secs – “Jehovah's Witnesses do not use the word 'shun' or 'shunning.' Disfellowshipping literally means “no further spiritual fellowship with the individual. The nature of the relationship then of a disfellowshipped person is not completely shunned, they can still attend the KH etc.; as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue, with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”

@ 4 hrs 11 mins 35 secs - “If a JW doesn't agree with certain things, they can walk away and start their own religion – or from within the congregation they can try to share their different thinking with others. Perhaps their beliefs will resonate with others in the congregation.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WaR3NkcTko

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When you were an active JW, did you ever have dealings with a pyramid scheme?

by Tameria2001 in

i'm not sure why this memory popped up, and i was wondering if any others, when they were still active jw had dealings with a pyramid scheme involving other witnesses in the organization?

at the time it was 1993, and my husband and i were still newlyweds.

once in a while, we would attend a neighboring congregation because that was where he grew up, and some of his family was still attending there at the time.

The Fall Guy

When I met my wife-to be, she introduced me to a sister in her congregation who was an agent for Noni. Having found out how much she was paying the sister for the snake-oil, I very quickly got her weaned off it.

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Russia Confiscates $30.4 Million Property From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Room 215 in

https://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/russia-confiscates-30-4-million-property-jehovahs-witnesses.

it would appear that with this most recent confiscation the total taken from the jws by moscow amounts to more that $75 million.

(ouch!

The Fall Guy

At Revelation 12:9-12, the angels were told to be glad at Satan's comeuppance, therefore, shouldn't everyone who has been deliberately hurt, abused or damaged by the WTBTS be pleased to witness such a corrupt entity having to suffer in the worst way possible - financially?

The cult deserves to be pillaged & plundered. Poetic justice.

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Need Help - How do I refute this???

by HappyBlessedFree in

so i was talking with my husband about all the things the organization is doing ie.

hiding pedophiles, lying about what 1914 was etc.

so his response was that the nation of israel had times when they weren’t doing the right thing, but it was still gods chosen organization.. another topic we were talking about was disfellowshipping.

The Fall Guy

Ask your husband these simple questions:

"How did you find out that God picked the Bible Students to be His people and Mr. Rutherford and his friends to be the "faithful slave"? Where did you get that information?"

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Research - Jehovah's Witnesses claim to speak for God, and be his only channel of communication with earth.

by Deut18_20-22 in

i believe that before an active jw will care about all of the incorrect claims and prophecies made by the organization, they first must be shown how the society claims to be speaking directly for god, and revealing truth from god.

once this can be established, showing them all of the incorrect predictions and changes of doctrine can have an effect (does jehovah make mistakes?

how can they be speaking for jehovah if they were wrong?

The Fall Guy

Welcome the forum Deut 18

I'd like to add these to your list:

w07 1/1 p. 28 par. 11 - "It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today."

re chap. 20 p. 125 par. 17 - "This suggests that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today." (spiritism at HQ?)

w10 7/15 p. 23 par. 10 - "When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood."

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2019-March-File!

by Atlantis in

2019-march-announcements and reminders.. https://we.tl/t-ezzkzv9q6n petra!

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The Fall Guy

Thanks Atlantis. JW's will be delighted to hear the reminder of how to donate electronically! :)

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Will You Stop Listening To Michael Jackson’s Music?

by minimus in

jw
friends

since the hbo documentary, more people are condemning mj.

will these child abuse allegations affect you if you ever liked his music?.

The Fall Guy

Can you separate Paul Simon from his Art?

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The UK government SANCTIONS this?

by The Fall Guy in

youngs kids can go behind their parents' and guardians' backs - and against their wishes - and get this vaccine!.

aren't children so lucky nowadays to be able to dismiss their parents' authority and guidance!

remember the puppies in george orwell's animal farm?

The Fall Guy

Youngs kids can go behind their parents' and guardians' backs - and against their wishes - and get this vaccine!

Aren't children so lucky nowadays to be able to dismiss their parents' authority and guidance!

Remember the puppies in George Orwell's Animal Farm? Sheesh!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-47419895/why-are-bame-girls-less-likely-to-get-the-hpv-jab

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/16/hpv-vaccine-effectiveness.aspx

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Is this JW Investment for the future?

by wozza in

jw
friends

i first had contact with jw's in the early 70's so i have seen many changes in that time like many people here.. in recent years we have seen the talk of many new kingdom and assembly halls to be built with urgency ,then suddenly it was put on hold ,then the halls were legally taken over by the society and congregations now renting ,if you will, back the halls they paid for and built with their own hands .i am talking generally as it would be different in some parts of the world.. people have been consolidated into neighboring halls as a lot of halls have been sold bringing in massive amounts of money for the wts.

over time policy ,scripture interpretation etc have changed ,people move about new ones get born in ,new people become jw,s and all this churning keeps people distracted.. eventually,over time surely the halls will fill up again with there being less of them around .i wonder whether this is part of wts strategy for the future fiscal plan ,that they can once again build the hysteria of the 80,s for quick built kingdom halls again ,and so then completing a cycle for future sell offs again ensuring future money and investment?

for ones born in or newer ones who were'nt around in the 80's it would all seem so fresh and exciting for the wts to sell it to them!.

The Fall Guy

The genie is out of the bottle - thanks to the internet & social media!

(Daniel 12:4) "Many will rove about*, and the true knowledge will become abundant." :) Love it!

*Or “examine it [that is, the book] thoroughly.

No potential recruit of JW's can now claim ignorance if they get baptised into this evil cult.

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Named and Shamed in Australia.

by Lost in the fog in

https://probonoaustralia.com.au/news/2019/02/government-names-shames-organisations-yet-join-redress-scheme/ .

The Fall Guy

If I remember correctly, the Australian Royal Commission's findings only provided recommendations for the Australian government to consider.

It looks like Australian MP's are now going to have to be encouraged to make the scheme compulsory.